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love_fist
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    07/26/10 at 10:31 PMReply with quote#1

Hi.
I just joined couple hours ago. I still don't know how the things are going in here, but i feel like home, especially after read several threads. I'm too a single, and still looking, and i'm not giving up. I know i'm still young, but i've never been with anyone and i'm still virgin. Hopefully i can get something useful here.

Nice to you all.
San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    07/27/10 at 01:53 AMReply with quote#2

Welcome! How old are you? Do you live in the States? What do you do? Any prospects?

Sean's lvo3 business seems to be on an indefinite hiatus, but there's a large archive of podcasts that have great info. Y'oughta email Papa Bear at sean@lvo3.com and work out some way for you to get at them.

love_fist
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    07/28/10 at 05:36 PMReply with quote#3

Hello, nice to meet you.
I'm only 21
I don't live in states, and currently jobless, i don't go to college. (maybe that's why girls don't wanna be with me? )
I don't think i have prospect, life is so-so.
What business we're talking about?
San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    07/29/10 at 04:20 AMReply with quote#4

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Originally Posted by love_fist
(maybe that's why girls don't wanna be with me?

Girls don't want to be with you because you think they don't want to be with you. I know it's a hell of a thing to wrap one's mind around, but it's true.

Hombre, I may not know you, but my advice to you is to get laid as soon as possible, with the only caveats being don't lie, use protection and don't pay for it. I was a virgin until 21 and a half, and became so desperate that I put a post on craigslist asking for some sympathetic woman to help me out. Fortunately, I got lucky and a great gal volunteered to do just that.

Do you have any gal friends you think might be up for fooling around? If not, do you have any group hobbies? If not, you should fine some. Dancing and hiking are two great places to start, imo.

The "business" I referred to is Sean's LVO3 relationship coaching company.
Cameron
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    07/29/10 at 09:07 AMReply with quote#5

With respect to Sanfrancisco Sean, I disagree, I firmly believe that the reason girls don't want to be with you is because RIGHT NOW you have no job, no passion and no purpose.

So what would it take for you to find your purpose?


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San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    07/29/10 at 03:25 PMReply with quote#6

He may have a passion. Do you, hombre?
Cameron
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    07/29/10 at 03:30 PMReply with quote#7

Thats a fair point, and also, I want to come clean and say right now I amn't living my passion and don't have any women in my life.

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love_fist
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    08/01/10 at 02:40 PMReply with quote#8

I do have passion
I do have purpose
What i don't have is a job lol.
The reason why i don't go to college because i want to work instead of school, but. finding job is hard.
Cameron
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    08/01/10 at 03:43 PMReply with quote#9

If you have purpose and passion, then what are you doing with your time?

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San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    08/01/10 at 05:01 PMReply with quote#10

Indeed. No offense or pressure, hombre, but if you'd like useful feedback you're going to have to share a bit more about yourself.
love_fist
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    08/09/10 at 01:54 PMReply with quote#11

Sorry to reply you all so long . . . .
This is my first online in this month
OK, what i'm doing right now is looking for a proper job. I believe i must be success first (financially) before i hit a woman, or am i wrong?
San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    08/09/10 at 02:46 PMReply with quote#12

Hitting women is a federal crime.
Cameron
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    08/09/10 at 03:02 PMReply with quote#13

Lol, Im pretty sure he didnt mean it like that.

To answer your question Mr fist, you dont "have" to have a good job to get women, but it helps (and it helps especially with the type of women who have good jobs themselves) like Chris Rock said.

I think its a great start.

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San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    08/09/10 at 03:44 PMReply with quote#14

But why use that word? It frankly gives me the creeps, especially when "love fist" says he lives in "Vice City".

Here's one way not to get great girls: act like a wannabe gangbanger man-child.

This is a Man forum. Like Chris Rock says, you want results, you got to come correct.

Cameron
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    08/09/10 at 05:09 PMReply with quote#15

I think he has a good attitude and was just joking, I could be wrong though.

We'll see.


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ledAstray
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    08/09/10 at 07:52 PMReply with quote#16

If you wouldn't have replied like that I would have just read "hit on a woman". Maybe he just meant that?

Still I agree that it's tough to give any advice if we have to get blood out of a stone like that.

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San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    08/09/10 at 09:04 PMReply with quote#17

D'oh, he probably did mean that; I blanked on that possibility when I read it. In which case, the moral is that in a Man forum, give what you've written a quick once-over before posting.

In which case, Cameron would be right. A job is important, though not as important as passion or purpose... neither of which has been revealed to us, so we're at an impasse of sorts.

ltmillar
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    08/10/10 at 12:35 AMReply with quote#18

Hey! San Fran!

Quote:
Hitting women is a federal crime.


You are SO wrong.

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But all in all I agree with the "Need more information and insight."  Otherwise, getting nowhere.



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love_fist
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    08/11/10 at 06:17 AMReply with quote#19

I didn't mean "hit" actually hit or beat a woman.
I meant approach woman lol.
I respect women lol, i don't want to hurt them

Ok, back to the topic, although Cameron said that having a job is not important, i'm still thinking it's important. Because with proper job i can be a good boyfriend. When dating, it's my obligation to pay the bills, if i have no money then it would be embarrassing, eh? I'd be so embarrassed if my girlfriend pays for me.

And what if later when i'm married and have a wife i don't have money, or maybe when i want to marry someone and don't have money? Or maybe i couldn't give my wife a proper life aka poor life? I don't want to end up live in ghetto lol.

That's why i'm thinking money making should be done early. Sort of early advantage.

And maybe that's my obstacle when it comes to women. I'm kinda scared to approach them, because i don't have job.

Any solution?
ledAstray
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    08/11/10 at 03:08 PMReply with quote#20

Quote:
Originally Posted by love_fist
And maybe that's my obstacle when it comes to women. I'm kinda scared to approach them, because i don't have job.

Any solution?

How about getting a job ? Seriously, can't hurt. And if it has such a big influence on your self-worth, go find a job!

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Cameron
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    08/11/10 at 05:17 PMReply with quote#21

"To answer your question Mr fist, you dont "have" to have a good job to get women, but it helps (and it helps especially with the type of women who have good jobs themselves) like Chris Rock said.

I think its a great start."

Thats what I said, I didnt say getting a job wasnt important, I said it was important!

And maybe that's my obstacle when it comes to women. I'm kinda scared to approach them, because i don't have job.

Any solution?

I hate to be an asshole, but is the reason your scared to approach woman because you dont have a job, or are you using that as an excuse?

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San_Francisco_SeanFan
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    08/11/10 at 07:40 PMReply with quote#22

Quote:
Originally Posted by love_fist
Because with proper job i can be a good boyfriend. When dating, it's my obligation to pay the bills, if i have no money then it would be embarrassing, eh? I'd be so embarrassed if my girlfriend pays for me.
And what if later when i'm married and have a wife i don't have money, or maybe when i want to marry someone and don't have money? Or maybe i couldn't give my wife a proper life aka poor life? I don't want to end up live in ghetto lol.

Whoa there, cowboy, slow down; one step at a time. Contrary to what Tony Stark might have you believe, you actually do have to learn to walk before you learn to run. And Rule #1 is, don't overthink any part of this.

Worry about marriage when you're in a long-term relationship. Worry about an LTR when you've been seeing a girl for a few months. Worry about that when you've dated around and started to get a feel for the world of girls. And to break into that world and really explore around, you must have some foundation of experience. To put it bluntly: you gotta get laid.

And for that, you don't need a job, though I admit that it does help significantly in getting gals to go out with you in the first place.

So, you can either get a job and then come back for advice (and I know how hard finding a gig can be these days), or you can tell us a bit about your purpose and goals, and we might be able to help you realize how you can use those to offset the challenges faced by your current funemployment.
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