ericl
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| | 02/12/09 at 12:30 AM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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That's right... I'm back baby!
... and having technical difficulties
My dream and nightmare girls both don't have working profiles anymore. I'm recreating the dream girl for week two. The nightmare girl was really bad. Dumb, uneducated, squirting out kids by the dozen, mean, feminist, unemployed, and did I mention dumb? You'll have to take my word for it 
I also started the framework for my profile based on the opposite of what I know doesn't work, if that makes sense
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| | 02/12/09 at 11:15 PM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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OK that one got wiped too... guess it wasn't meant to be with that picture. I'll see if I can find some more believable ones.
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| | 02/15/09 at 11:13 PM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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OK, it's been 3 days and change and I have 4 pages of messages for my girl. Call me picky, but I wouldn't date any of these douchebags. They either said nothing (Hi or does not constitute a message IMO, especially if you wanna have a hope of getting any response), just gave their msn, or attached pictures of themselves in various douche-y poses. I'm thinking of revising her want list to discourage guys that wear baseball hats with straight brims, especially tilted to one side, or think that popped collars are cool in any way lol...
Oh and one guy sent his life story, it had to be about 2000 words or more I'm sure 
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| | 02/16/09 at 10:58 PM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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haha, some guy sent the "Beauty is common, but a great outlook on life is rare, what about you should make me want to read more." line. READ the profile you twit, and put down The Game. Actually, burn it and forget you ever read it. You'll thank me later.
I'm trying SOOOO hard to not reply to that one.
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| | 02/17/09 at 03:02 AM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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Hmm interesting. I'm just looking at the "top 500" people according to the ratings system on PoF. Two of the top 3 rated guys are basically saying they haven't had much success on the site (one of them literally said this in his profile)?? How can that be right? The one guy was on 200 favorites lists.
None of them seem like rocket surgeons, but you'd think they'd be getting a few messages if 200 women have them on their favorites list. Maybe they don't know how to convert those messages into dates *shrug*
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| | 02/17/09 at 05:47 PM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by ericl
haha, some guy sent the "Beauty is common, but a great outlook on life is rare, what about you should make me want to read more." line. READ the profile you twit, and put down The Game. Actually, burn it and forget you ever read it. You'll thank me later.
I'm trying SOOOO hard to not reply to that one.
do it.
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| | 02/17/09 at 08:26 PM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by ericl
haha, some guy sent the "Beauty is common, but a great outlook on life is rare, what about you should make me want to read more." line. READ the profile you twit, and put down The Game. Actually, burn it and forget you ever read it. You'll thank me later.
I'm trying SOOOO hard to not reply to that one.
you soooooooo have to send that!!!!
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| | 02/18/09 at 12:33 AM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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OK. I sent that, but I think it triggered something in me. It made me want to write snide comments to all the douchebags that messaged me thinking they're king shit.
One other guy wrote "Its absolutely imperative that we talk" as his subject line, which was kinda good I'll admit, but the followup was weak: "We'll get along swimmingly I'm sure, message me back as there's much to talk about".
Like what? The ridiculous hat you have on in your picture?
This is bad....
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| | 02/18/09 at 02:15 AM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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the worst you (or any woman) could do is simply delete the message without reading it.
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| | 02/18/09 at 01:29 PM | Reply with quote | #12 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by ericlOK. I sent that, but I think it triggered something in me. It made me want to write snide comments to all the douchebags that messaged me thinking they're king shit. One other guy wrote "Its absolutely imperative that we talk" as his subject line, which was kinda good I'll admit, but the followup was weak: "We'll get along swimmingly I'm sure, message me back as there's much to talk about". Like what? The ridiculous hat you have on in your picture? This is bad....
u really want to find out how bad it can be for girls on these sites?
send those snide, mean messages as the girl... and you'll be SHOCKED at how many write back thinking they STILL have a shot!!!
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| | 02/19/09 at 01:56 AM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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haha
"
WAAAHHHHAAAAAA!
holy sh*tu called it hard!
i know its lame but i thought maybe that bullsh*twould work.
wow.
whats up is played out though, u got 2 edmit.
"
At least he knew he was busted...
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| | 02/19/09 at 03:05 AM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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Some screennames:
imaginehowfun
pranayamafun
namastebiker (I'm liking the yoga references for some reason)
OK, so some headlines I'm toying with:
using the email headline idea:
"I've given up on women"
"Can you order a woman online?"
"A Valentine's day massacre"
using what I learned from having a recon profile:
"Escape the barrage of hi and hey theres"
other:
"OK. I'm 6'2", super rich, and I have a huge...." (then open the description with "heart" or "vocabulary"  )
Actually that one might work as a message too... hmm.
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| | 02/20/09 at 04:16 PM | Reply with quote | #16 |
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hmmm... not going very well so far. No emails, no views.
Maybe Canadian girls don't believe in messaging guys?
Maybe my profile just sucks 
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| | 02/20/09 at 04:26 PM | Reply with quote | #17 |
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So...
If you are not having luck catching fish with one type of bait... Do you keep on fishing the same spot the same way?
Remember. There are NO limits. NONE. So be creative in ways to pull in those fish by any means necessary.
Use those smarts for once in your life, men.
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| | 02/22/09 at 11:26 PM | Reply with quote | #19 |
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Hmm, this is quite the eye opener. This guy has a decent profile I think, and he's a freakin' male model, but he doesn't have so much as a single VIEW (unless that's broken on the site), nevermind women contacting him.
This is why I dismissed online as a waste of time, even after reading the "foolproof" methods of other online "gurus". It does make me proud that I did get a number from a pretty cute girl a while back though. Too bad she was moving away shortly after she gave it to me 
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| | 02/23/09 at 12:40 AM | Reply with quote | #20 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by ericlhttp://www.plentyoffish.com/member11531949.htmMr Stud Kickass... I think it might be a little too short, but I think I've got a good start. I'll probably take out the bit about "embrace life instead of complain".
fotos = tragic.
nothing quite matches up words w pics. no smiles. no laughs. no sexy. dull. also sounds like a metro. yoga and wine and classical and silly shirtless pic? yawn.
needs more real man.
hence... no contact.
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| | 02/23/09 at 04:26 PM | Reply with quote | #22 |
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Ur learning thru experience the reality of online dating, and I'll cover it all in the last class.
Its a numbers game and a crapshoot no matter who u r or how great ur "system," which makes it a fun supplement to meeting girls in real life... But never a replacement.
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| | 04/02/09 at 12:49 AM | Reply with quote | #23 |
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Alright, so I've had my own profile up for a while now. It's been three weeks or so, and I'm doing way better than I thought I would. The first two weeks I really just emailed one girl that really caught my attention... not the best strategy maybe, but I did it anyways, and I'm currently chatting away with one of them . But actually messaging girls first is definitely the fast way to go. Especially if you have shitty pics like I do haha...
I've also had a few views and one girl emailed me, completely unsolicited. So maybe there's hope for this method
Now lets see if I can close at all... cause chatting online doesn't really count at the end of the day
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| | 04/06/09 at 09:05 PM | Reply with quote | #24 |
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I'm also noticing there's a lot of girls that are sandbagging big time. Both under "body type" and in their profile. You can tell they're downplaying things as much as possible :-/
I haven't decided yet if it's a self-esteem thing, or an attempt at cutting down the retarded emails they're getting *shrug*
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| | 04/27/09 at 11:15 PM | Reply with quote | #25 |
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Well, I *thought* I had a date tonight... no show. Back to square one again.... 
Learnings:
Make it solid. I didn't, and I didn't ping her over the weekend to make sure it was still happening.
Take what she says in context. "Your super cute, YOU BETTER BE THERE" I believe were her exact words Actually the your thing is a pet peeve of mine, but I'm going by the "if she's not a no, she's a yes" thing now.
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| | 05/26/09 at 01:05 AM | Reply with quote | #26 |
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Arg... talk about frustrating. 3 months later and still nothing. My resolve is being tested, I dunno if this is worth it anymore. I'll get a message back once in a while, but it always seems to either fizzle out quickly or never light. I found myself almost asking a girl tonight what I did wrong before I checked that thought and remembered it's not me.
I made a few changes a week or two ago and things got a little better. Maybe it's time to tweak again.
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| | 07/12/09 at 08:43 PM | Reply with quote | #27 |
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Alright, I think I'm done with this for a while. Did a search through local guys today to see what types are actually getting results (judging from the number of favorites they have).
Most seem to have better than average pictures, and they're some sort of archetype that women typically like (firefighter, cop, cowboy, etc). Beyond that it's a crapshoot. Some of them have 2 line profiles, and none of them seemed to have anything interesting on there. A few even had the douchey shirtless self-pic in the mirror thing which women supposedly don't like.
In summary, I think this whole exercise just led to more confusion and frustration at how fickle both women and men are online. I'll admit there were a few girls that messaged me that seemed like nice enough girls but I wasn't physically attracted to and thus either sabotaged the conversation or didn't respond at all.
I messaged one last girl today, but it looks like another "read - no reply" situation. Tomorrow I'm taking down my profile and forgetting about fishing online for now.
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| | 07/17/09 at 03:02 AM | Reply with quote | #28 |
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So of course the day I go to close down my account I get like 6 emails, including one from a girl I thought I lost but had just gone on vacation... that I talked to for an hour on the phone tonight with Maybe I should give up more often haha
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